"Q" MAGAZINE,
MAY 1997
No way! Until recently, Jon Bon Jovi was Rock God incarnate. Now, he has
swapped singing about "pussy" and playing stadiums for acting and selling
rather
fewer records. No matter, for as he tells Paul Du Noyer in his favourite
Camden
eaterie, "I'm gonna go down the route that's creative and inventive.
When a man walks into a restaurant wearing a skimpy black shirt and rock
star
shades you might think he looks like Jon Bon Jovi. When the restaurant
manager
greets him like a long-lost son --"Ah, Jon! I have everything ready" and
points to a
table, already laden with every delicacy this distinguished visitor is
known to favour
-- you start to get the feeling it probablyy is Jon Bon Jovi. And then
you notice he's
being followed by two young women. He throws up his hands in despair and
says:
"I'm not even sleepin' with these bitches! And they still give me shit!"
That settles it,
then. This must be Jon Bon Jovi...
Strangely enough, the words, "I'm not even sleepin' with these bitches!
And they
still give me shit!" are almost the only ones he will utter in rock star
mode all
evening. He slaps a well-defined upper-arm, home to a small Superman logo:
"I
have to tell'em, this Superman thing is only a tattoo!" He pulls up a chair
and takes
off his shades. and gives you a hey-just-kidding grin. His manner becomes
quite
different. He is now earnest, and almost shy. The two young women, one
learns,
are Jon Bon Jovi's publicity team, responsible for the punishing string
of interviews
he has undergone today, from a Radio One Roadshow in Bournemouth to this
evening's rendezvous with Q, in his favourite restaurant in the world,
Cheng Du in
Camden Town, North London ("This is the only interview I've looked forward
to. I
love this place -- I musta been here thirty-five times"). The publicity
women are
teased for their pitiless brutality. He whimpers and pleads exhaustion.
But later they
will say: "He's a worka- holic. He loves to have things to do."
What we have, in fact, is not the Jon Bon Jovi of legend. He is no longer
the
hairy-chested, turbo-trousered Love Overlord of stadium-rogering magnitude,
but
rather a calm, reflective cove, as sensible as a 35-year-old is supposed
to be.
Married, with two children, he has taken a two-year sabbatical from the
band Bon
Jovi in order to pursue his two professional dreams. One is to make some
introspective, unpredictable solo music such as appears on his new album
Destination Anywhere. It's a pretty subtle piece of work that bears scant
resemblance to the Jovi's monumental moments: Bad Medicine, Lay Your Hands
On Me, Livin' On A Prayer and so on.
The other goal is acting: his second major movie role comes with the release
of The
Leading Man, in which he stars as a manipulative American thespian infiltrating
the
world of British theatre. He made the film in London last year, living
for three
months in a house by Wandsworth Common ("I never understood why people
here
thought that was funny. I coulda lived in Holland Park. But I liked Wandsworth.")
It's as if he now looks back on his old Bon Jovi character like that, too,
as if it was
an acting job. He slips into a line like "I'm not even sleepin' with these
bitches!" with
an easy irony. It's an echo of the '80, when he was a codpiece-flaunting
hair rocker
and saying stuff like that was simply part of his job description. It's
just not where
he's at any more.
The revolving restaurant table takes a spin, and he wields his chopsticks
-- with a
finesse that would attract Shanghai itself -- in the general direction
of some crispy
seaweed. "Hey, George!" he calls out to manager. "When are you gonna open
a
branch in New Jersey7 Then I could eat this all the time." "Ah, no good,
Jon. You
travel all the time. We would never see you." The resting rock god munches
somewhat on his seaweed."Nah, man. If I could eat like this at home I'd
never
leave New Jersey." So, how's life treating you, Jon? "With the exception
of this
schedule," he shoots a glance at his publicity people,on a nearby table,"I
have
nothing to bitch about." Outside, on the streets of Camden Town, are red-faced
madmen, gripping carrier bags and shouting at the traffic. Behind them
are two
separate sets of posters. The cheaper ones advertise a collection of pre-Bon
Jovi
tunes the man recorded under the name on his birth certificate, John Bongiovi.
The
expensive ones show him modelling Versace jeans, rippling his sculpted
torso. Jon
Bon Jovi was the only hard rock singer of the last decade to look like
he'd been
designed by girls. Negotiating an unidentified meat, he describes the origins
of his
new solo music, attributing its quirkiness to the atmosphere of London.He
began
writing the songs while filming.
"On a movie set you sit around with your thumb in your butt. Nowhere to
go, no
TV. So I brought my guitar and started writing. It was a very exciting
time. The
Britpop thing having just started, I was listening to the radio in my trailer-
the
Manics, Black Grape, Blur, Pulp -- I went, 'Woah! What the fuck is this?'
Those
songs! Common People. Design For Life. I thought this was cool." Among
the
London numbers was Midnight In Chelsea, replete with references to goths.
Sloane
Rangers and Britpop boys. As with his new material in general, soaring
guts-or-glory choruses are not a feature, whereas there is subdued moodiness
aplenty. What do the old Bon Jovi fans think of his new direction? The
singer
frowns and stabs thoughtfully at some prawn toast. "Well, I'm not touring,
so I
don't know how ticket sales would go if I did. To be honest with you. the
Midnight
In Chelsea single stiffed in America. Nobody knew what the word Chelsea
meant.
I tried to explain it was a part of London, they didn't give a fuck. Europe,
Asia, rest
of the world. the single did really well. In America, they didn't want
to hear it."
"The US didn't get second single Queen Qf New Orleans either -- this time
quite
literally. Janie, Don't Take Your Love To Town was it a more staid
replacement."Oueen Of New Orleans would go on the heavy rock stations,
but
they won't play me now." bemoans Bon Jovi. It's a crazy time. We played
the
single for what they call Modern Rock stations in the States. They go,
'Man, love
this! Who is it? ' You tell them. (Pulls face) 'Can't play it. Too many
hits. Can't play
a guy with hit records.' Where the fuck is that'!" Is there inverted snobbery
at
work? "In a weird way, yeah. You get too successful, you're not cool any
more.
I've sold too many records to be new. Like, people slag U2 because they're
not
the newest thing any more. Doesn't mean that Bono's not a great singer,
'cos he is.
But they're on top of the world. You just deal with it. It's par for the
course, I can't
stress myself over it."
Like yourself, U2 took a chance in moving away from stadium-friendly anthem
rock. "Absolutely. I got an advance copy of the U2 record by begging and
pleading. I got an advance copy of the Aerosmith record the same way. My
record
was done and I'd just listened to it for the first time. To tell you the
truth I got
nervous. Holy fuck, maybe I've made a mistake here. Should I stay safe
and do the
Aerosmith route? Qr should I be adventurous and go the U2 route? I thought
I'd
made a pretty good record. I said, 'Fuck it, I'm gonna go the route that's
creative
and inventive and movin' on and not pretending to sing to 18-year-olds
when
you're 35 and talkin' about how I like pussy.' I like pussy as much as
the next guy,
but I don't wanna hang around high school parking lots to get it. You move
on, you
wanna say different things."
When you were 25, you made some great young man's music. "You bet! I stood
tall and said. 'I am 25, hallelujah! You give love a bad name. Bring it
on!' We lived
it. Man, I love playin' Wembley Stadium. I love bein' in a rock'n'roll
band. But
what I won't do is be 35 pretending to be 25 writing about 18-year- olds.
When I
was 25 I wrote Never Say Goodbye about the High school prom. Can't do that.
Move on, man. So what will I do if it's not successful commercially? I
don't think
I'll lose my record deal."
A theme of Midnight In Chelsea is Jon Bon Jovi's pleasure in becoming
anonymous, melting into the city, He says he meant it. "Last year, when
the Bon
Jovi tour ended. I walked away and, for the first time in the '90', I didn't
have a
hundred people on the payroll. Didn't have to worry about getting a record
out to
keep the company happy. It was absolutely from the bottom of my belly.
Nobody's
asking me for favours, no one's looking for a saviour. America didn't get
that lyric,
but I'd rather paint it on my chest than take it back."
Did you reach a low point with the band? "Well, 1990 to '92 was seriously
low. I
was as low as I could imagine myself being. I call it the Grey Summer.
I was out in
California, drinkin', being miserable, wanted to seek help, jump out of
my car when
I was driving. I was a mess, it took everything out of it that I loved.
Until I took
control, it sucked." He "took control", in fact, by firing the band's manager,
Doc
McGhee. "Now, because I'm further away from it, I can see our old manager
was
really doing his job. But in the big picture, he and everyone else involved
-- agents,
lawyers -- should have said, 'You know what? We believe in you. You'll
be here in
ten years. Go home and have a rest.' Not doing things behind your back
to keep
you on the road."
The band, he insists, will get back together. v "Definitely. My intention
is absolutely
to keep the band together and address songs to the venues we appear in,
which
typically are the big ones. But not to re-write You Give Love A Bad Name,
because I couldn't do that, I love the song and the period but I can't
do it again."
He thinks of his New Jersey homeboy Bruce Springsteen -- another man who
knows what it's like to walk away from stadiums and follow his own particular
muse. "Yeah. We all had dinner at my house, and he looked right through
me and
said, I tell you, I'm happier now than I've ever been in my life.' He's
playin' an
acoustic guitar by himself, pretending to be Woody Guthrie. And I went,
'OK, for
the first time I'm not gonna tell you to put the band back together. I
finally get it! '
I'd been relentless in telling him to put the fuckin' band back together!
He wouldn't
have a word of it. He don't wanna be The Boss all the time, either. "And
now," he
peers outside, "It's time to get my sweaty ass outta my favourite restaurant."

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